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Roman Empire & dynamic modelling

A very interesting essay on Roman Empire by Ugo Bardi: “”Peak Civilization”: The Fall of the Roman Empire”

Check also the comments on “night soil”.

So the “controlled collapse” is equal to “lower complexity” is equal to “anarchy”, right?


  1. matti wrote:

    “So the “controlled collapse” is equal to “lower complexity” is equal to “anarchy”, right?”

    Sounds like equivocation, lower complexity does not imply anarchy. Anarchy, however, might always imply lower complexity. This is because anarchy seems to require less social and professional specialisation. I’ve never heard about high tech anarchy.

    Monday, July 27, 2009 at 5:20 pm | Permalink
  2. matti wrote:

    I wrote a wrong website link on my comment above because I instinctually wrote instead of (I used blogger for too many years). If you decide to allow my comment above, you could also change the website into:

    As an aside, you might wonder why I’m always criticizing your points of view here. As a matter of fact I always find your writings eye-opening and worth serious rethinking of my own preconceptions. But I think there’s no need to seek any theoretical unification, theoretical anarchy should involve so many discussions going forth to undiscovered countries, white spaces of political maps.

    Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 8:31 am | Permalink
  3. tere wrote:

    what does lower complexity imply, then?

    in any case, i agree that there are several different issues entangled here. see this comment and subcomments to Bardi’s article:

    Wednesday, July 29, 2009 at 11:49 am | Permalink

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